My Posh Fillister Plane is Just a Roughing Tool

by | Sep 2, 2022 | 10 comments

Every now and then I feel like I see something with new eyes.
I’m often blow away at the beauty of say the sea, or the sky with a pretty sunrise.
It’s as though my brain has had a system reset and deleted its memory so I get to see it again like it’s for the first time. 

Imagine if you could see a storm on a distant planet. The eye of Jupiter or something with your actual own eyes. Or have a look at the Earth from the Moon.
You’d stop and truly take it in.

That just happened. But what I’ve just seen is my tools. 

I stood and scratched my head for a bit…. It’s a rough bunch. 

Lots of pointed tarnished steel, slightly green brass, and chipped split wood.

And lots of sticks?

And a puppet… 

If I get robbed they’d take everything I don’t need and leave me with everything I do.

Seeing this pile I’m now actually unsure of how I make anything…. (Maybe my work is rougher than I thought?)

The nicest tool I own, or at least the poshest looking one is me swanky Veritas fillister.

It truly is a smashing plane, with laser gun / fancy jewelry vibes.
And it’s got the lot –
A nice fence.
A depth stop.
I love the skewed iron.

And it’s even got a nicking iron (that I’ve used about one time).
That’s basically a little cutting wheel that runs ahead of the main iron, to sever the cross grain fibres and stop owt from ragging out.

Yet despite these great features, I don’t use any of it. Even though I do use this plane a lot. 

This is because I actually consider the fillister plane to be a roughing tool. (Though it is capable of far more.)

The Veritas Fillister Plane – despite all it’s precision features I prefer to consider this plane as a ‘roughing tool’.

So What Does the Fillister Plane Get Used For?

This plane is mostly there for cutting rebates (rabbets if you’re in America) and also comes in for joinery on breadboard ends on small tables and the like, which are basically really long tenons.

In both of these cases I find using the fillister plane with all its features for making a precision tool to be a bit suboptimal.

When it comes to cutting rebates there’s rarely a need to be super critical on the fit.
Running a load of shiplap joints for a shelf, or a rebate on the back of a carcass can be fairly loose and round about work. And for the most part you can ensure you’re planing with the grain in those situations, so they tend to not need as much care.
For these then there’s often little point in setting up all those fancy features and whatnots.
So long as the depth is about right and the shoulder is parallel and somewhat square, then the job’s a good’un.

But Not All Jobs Are So Easy Going

For breadboards and cutting other long tenons etc. precision on all aspects does become critical. You want perfect crisp shoulders, and it’s common to be cutting these across the grain too. And the depth needs to be exact and true as it will be a fitted joint.  
For these cases I find it too much of a faff to set the fillister plane up properly, to the extent that you could expect the precision you’re after straight off the tool.

Even when it seems worth that effort to set the tool up, it requires more skill than you’d think to actually run it true. A slight lean to the left or right with any of the passes and you can get a stepped shoulder or even blow out the grain right on the shoulder line when you’re going across it.

So for these precision jobs I still look upon the fillister plane as a roughing tool.
It can shift away the bulk of the waste fantastically, but when accuracy is needed I find there’s far better tools for coming in and refining the joint’s fit. 

My Approach For Cutting Long Tenons With Accuracy

I’ll start out any long tenon by deeply scoring the shoulder with a gauge or knife line. Which is particularly important when cutting across the grain.
Then the fillister can hog the waste out at a rapid pace due to having that lovely skewed iron.
But the key is that the fillister is set up to cut well off the shoulder line. And I’ll stop planing just shy of the depth lines.

With short work made of that I have some favourite tools for coming in to refine the joint precisely.

A Router Plane is Perfect for Sneaking Up On The Depth

It’s so nice to be able to dial in gradually on the depth of cut, and I’ll often directly check the fit of the tenon as I go. The router plane guarantees consistency as it doesn’t tilt in use and can also ensure that the depth is cut perfectly parallel.
This last part is perfect as I can now use a rebate or shoulder plane to sneak up on the shoulder line, registering the tool on the nice flat and true bottom left by the router.
Again it’s much more controllable than using the fillister.

None of this is to say that a well set up and used fillister plane can’t do a good job straight of the tool. But I just find for myself that if I want a repeatable, accurate and tidy job then there are better ways.

And having the poshest tool for the job really isn’t needed either. For the majority of my life I’ve got by just fine with a heavy wooden shoulder plane.  No fence or anything. For that first hogging out of the waste I’d use my fingers as a fence and it worked great.
Which is probably more the reason why I still prefer to use the other tools when doing critical, precise rebates. Habit.

This approach to cutting accurate long tenons and rebates is seen in action within our ‘Nest of Tables’ series, so if you’re interested in having a closer look you can find all of the details here.

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About Richard Maguire

As a professional hand tool woodworker, Richard found hand tools to be the far more efficient solution for a one man workshop. Richard runs 'The English Woodworker' as an online resource and video education for those looking for a fuss free approach to building fine furniture by hand. Learn More About Richard & The English Woodworker.


  1. Andy Reynolds

    I have a similar approach, but I use an old wooden skew rabbet plane for the hogging out. It was a rescue from an antique store. I find it’s easier to keep plumb than my Stanley 190 (another rescue) because it’s tall and thin. I’m on the lookout for the opposite-handed skew rabbet now.

    • Richard Maguire

      Hi Andy, I’d say that’s a perfect tool for the job. That’s a good point with the big wooden boxy planes too, they are a lot easier to register plumb. Cheers.

  2. Terence M

    In one of the videos in the series I recall that you said you would normally use a Veritas Plough Plane rather than the fillister. Is this because the Plough Plane is easier and quicker to set?

    • Richard Maguire

      Hi Terence, sorry I don’t quite recall but I could have a check if you have a reference to where it was said. Generally I wouldn’t see the use of a plough here – I’d use it for the mortice portion in the breadboard itself but I’m not so sure for the tenon.

  3. Jon E

    I had a similar experience when I first go my “rabbet” plane. I just sort of expected it to take all the skill out of the equation, but that’s just not how it works. You still have to set it up properly and still have to use it properly. And just as you say, there’s is always human error. It took me a project or two to realize that cutting off my lines and cleaning them up was the way to go. I am happy to see a seasoned, skilled woodworker also has the same approach 🙂 I find that as I get a little better with the plane, I have less to clean up.

  4. Jon E

    Incidentally, I am also enjoying all the blog posts of late. I know they take time, but I certainly enjoy reading them.

  5. Tim

    I have the Veritas Skewed Block plane that does exactly the same task (starting rabbets/rebates) and is very useful for lots of other tasks. Then I use my router to finish the rabbet.

  6. Richard

    Glad to see your back to making posts. I’ve bought two videos from you – the nest of tables and the side table. I’ve honestly learned more from you than anywhere else. Great teacher.

  7. David O

    I like reading your blogs Richard, it reminds me to keep my wallet in my pocket when browsing online stores or ebay trying to sell me all kinds of specialist tools. You have saved me hundreds if not thousands over the years 🙂
    I’m not sure if i’m correct, i’m guessing a bit here, but I suspect a lot of these niche specialist tools came about during that small period of history when production was industrialised, but not yet mechanised, ie you had teams of people producing parts for assembly, and each person was doing the same job over and over, at which point a niche/specialist tool would be great. However, for a small workshop with only a very small team, or one person working alone, many of these tools become redundant because of the time it takes to set and reset between different tasks.
    As a hobbyist, these days I try and use the bare minimum, and rely on thinking my way around problems and patience with the process. I have found that there are not many tasks with the projects I build that can’t be achieved with a mallet, chisel, marking knife, square, saw and bench plane. Sure, you sometimes have to make compromises and the fit and finish may not always be perfect, but that happens less than I thought. There are some speacialist planes I wouldn’t be without though now that I have them; a good router plane is probably the main one. Keep it coming.

  8. tiurro

    Interestingly, it’s the same approach in 1812’s Nicholson Mechanic’s Companion.

    1. Gauge the lines
    2. Set the fillister plane to a hair less that the final width and depth
    3. go hog wild on the fillister removing wood with abandon.
    4. sneak to your lines using a skew bladed rebate plane.


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